Category: Geeks r Us
I assume other people besides me use yahoo. has anyone noticed, that now, when sending an e-mail, they require an image varification? What's with that, and is there any way around it?
Unfortunately, not that I know of. Switch to gmail, it's a hell of a lot easier.
Yes, these captchas have been broken, but unfortunatley the spammers who break them don't freely distribute their secrets to those who have real reasons for breaking the captchass. The only thing these measures are really doing is making it so those who use screen readers and other assistive devices lose out. For every program they can write to take safety measures, a program to decrypt it with countermeasures will be invented. The human factor still plays a role, and on some level, most humans think alike, so anything one human can create, another can destroy. For more details on the breaking of the captchas by spammers, see:
Gmail, Yahoo and Hotmail’s CAPTCHA broken by spammers
I really think the creators of these tools need to be sued. Even providing a distorted audio file of the number/letter combonation is not enough, since it still leaves the deaf-blind out, as well as many normal hearing people who just can't make sense of it. I wish I had a good answer for your problem with yahoo, but unfortunatley, there is no simple answer. I've had my yahoo account for over 3 years now, and am considering changing it.
huh? yahoo has immage varifications now? I wasn't aware of it. I've always been able to send emails.
i can get round it, if anyone is in doubt, contact me
Perhaps it would be most useful if you would just post what it is you did to get around the immage verification dan...
I still say if you can't get around it you should just create an account with Gmail. You can switch the layout to basic html and then you'll be able to navigate around the page a lot better than you can on Yahoo. I used to hate all the tables in Yahoo. Also, have you tried using Outlook Express to get around the problem? I personally wouldn't recommend this, but I know blind people who say Outlook is much easier to use than any web-based email. Hope this helps.
When was this immage varification thing started?
About a year ago, I think.
use web visom with firefox, it solves captchas for you, in less than 30 seconds with a hotkey, and its free. www.webvisom.com i think is the site if i am spelling it right
Ooooh thanks. I use thunderbird, but I'm not sure if thunderbird supports yahoo mail or not. It will support aim, and Gmail, as those r my main accounts.
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I also use Thunderbird, and at least from what I've seen, it don't support yahoo.
When I try to login, it says that password wasn't accepted though I know its right, cause I can login using it on the yahoo site.
It works with hotmail, GMail, though, which isn't so bad, good thing I don't use yahoo mail all that often...:)
I have a yahoo email account but I never use it because of the image varification things. I just forward all my mail to one main address and go from there.
I've never had to enter a capture when I send emails
I just figured this was something new and didn't even bother trying to send mail through my yahoo account until today. The message I wrote sent and was recieved just fine, with no immage verification required. So unless they all the sudden took the immage verification out of the process, I'm not sure what u r refering to.
well, I am using the site, like, the actual site, because outlook express hates me and won't let me log in. but this is what it gives me when I try to send an e-mail
Send - Verify
To finish sending this message and help us fight spam, please enter the character string as it is shown in the box below.
Trouble seeing this image?
Character string shown:
Why do I have to do this?
This step helps Yahoo! prevent spammers from using Yahoo! Mail, and helps to ensure that your email will be delivered.
I think it just randomly asks you to do the capcha thing, because I was forwarding some messages I'd saved in yahoo to another account, and it was going along smoothly, and then after about the 5th or 6th message, the capcha thing popped up. I haven't tried the Firefox add on that solves capchas yet, as I just heard about it earlier today.
Is there a way to get round the capture in ie7?
No, IE doesn't have any way to get around captchas. From what you said, there should be an audio one, from the trouble seeing this image thing. But this is no solution. How does sending email from an already created account fight spam anyways? If you already verified you are a person once, then there's no reason to keep having to do it over and over again. I'm telling you, go with gmail or even hotmail if you don't want to have to deal with this crap.
Well, I don't know about hotmail, bug Gmail will not worry about spam for u. If u do get some, it automaticaly moves it, and its really good about what's spam and what's not. I have never gotten spam at all in my inbox.
Me neither. Hotmail definitely isn't my favorite, but it's tolerable. At least it doesn't ask you for a captcha when you want to send an email. You would have a little trouble getting around the page with JAWS, but other than that it's alright.
Not really. Just jump around by checkboxes.
Ok, according to what you'd call customer support (an e-mail i got 5 months ago), yahoo prompts you when messages contain "suspicious file atatchments (every exe, zip, rar, doc, ... and if they feel like, every thing you atatch), web links, and pictures" is considered to be verifiable by a person. This is pure bs, because i have been having the same thing with yahoo. They don't realize their incompatibility with laws in the "united" States either. The creators of the captcha at least provide this answer and many comon answers like text-based verifications (riddles, simple arithmetic, general knowledge) as other alternatives. You can go to captcha.net and see it for yourself. Gmail is ok, at least it considers blind people humans as opposed to other providers.
oh, and the browser extenssion is spelled web visum with a U not an O.
just to clarify, has anyone else, using the yahoo site recently, had this problem?
and if so, I wonder if one of those patition things would do any good?
and, I tried to send an e-mail, with no attachment, and it still asks for varification when sending. Stupid spammers!
if it is remotely a pain in the ass to use I don't use it hence hotmail or yahoo. I dont' hve time for that bullshit. It is nice though to see an extention however it is only for firefox it should be more universal.
I don't usually have an issue with these new audio verification. In fact cragistlist had a really good one, and all of a sudden every site is using the same system. It is leaving out the deaf, but if they are deaf why would be listening to it in the first place. they can use the damned picture. the whole thing is bs.
"It is leaving out the deaf, but if they are deaf why would be listening to it in the first place. they can use the damned picture. the whole
thing is bs." This is like saying, "if the picture leaves the blind out they shouldn't be seeeing it anyway. they have the damn screen reader." Of course we know that is to the possible extent not accurate or true. Neither is the quoted phrase: What if you are both deaf and blind... what are you going to do... neither the picture nor the audio works for you.
the way I see it, is that every sight that you have to sign up for, should have the audio capture for the blind.
"the way I see it, is that every sight that you have to sign up for, should have the audio capture for the blind."
I suppose in an ideal world, that would happen, but we don't live in one of those. Further, yes, what about those who are deaf-blind? The deaf and blind commnities always seem to leave them out. That's why I like these common knowledge things where you have to do a simple math problem or answer a question correctly. I still think the zone should have gone this rout for verification, but oh well.